Magic in the Room #107: What New Leaders Need With Bella Butler
June 21, 2022
Bella Butler is the Managing Editor at Outlaw Partners. In this episode of Magic in the Room, Hannah, Luke, and Bella discuss the need to equip new leaders with passion, buy-in, and confidence to fill their roles in today’s ever-changing work environment.
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Guest information:
- Find Bella on LinkedIn
- Find the publications and companies Bella writes for at www.explorebigsky.com/, https://www.mtoutlaw.com/, https://outlaw.partners/
Links from this episode:
- Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari
- Situational Leadership Model
- The SCARF Model
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