Magic in the Room #123: Spreading Financial Freedom with Sherrie Grabot
October 11, 2022
This week on Magic in the Room, Hannah and Luke sit down with Sherrie Grabot, CEO and Founder of both GuidedChoice and 3Nickels. Together they discuss her journey to financial advisement, how we need to change the way we think about money, and what leaders can do to foster financial literacy within their organization.
GuidedChoice is a digital retirement advisory firm whose mission is to bring financial freedom to everyone, whether you are saving for, nearing, or in retirement. 3Nickels is a free companion app and a financial tool individuals can use to reach their goals and achieve financial freedom.
Find GuidedChoice at www.guidedchoice.com
Find 3Nickels at 3nickels.com
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