Magic in the Room #151: Values: Becoming an Impactful River with Guest Wendy Togami
June 6, 2023
In this episode of Magic in the Room, Luke and Chris sit down with guest Wendy Togami to talk about how individuals, families, and organizations can live their values. Wendy introduces us to a metaphor of values as river banks. The banks keep the water flowing with direction and momentum. Without values to guide our lives, we can end up more like a puddle, which is unfocused and does not have an impact.
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Find Wendy on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/wendy-togami-34a810268
Credits:
- This episode of Magic in the Room was recorded at goroguestudio.com
- Music by Evan Grim. Find his music on
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