Magic in the Room #116: Building a Coaching Culture for Higher Performance with Stephanie Licata and Emma Holland
August 19, 2022
In this episode of Magic in the Room, Luke is joined by coaching experts and PPG team members, Stephanie Licata and Emma Holland to discuss the importance of coaching culture, it’s place in the work environment, and how it can drastically improve your organization. Coaching is an investment, and as Steph succinctly puts it, “When you invest in your workforce, they will work for you, and they will produce for you.”
Learn more about how to create a coaching culture in your organization by watching our recent webinar Creating a Coaching Culture in Tribal Organizations: A Case Study. Find it at this link: www.purposeandperformancegroup.com/coaching-culture
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Links mentioned in this episode:
- Co-Active Coaching: The Proven Framework for Transformative Conversations at Work and in Life at coactive.com/resources/coactive-coaching-4th-edition/
- The Leadership Challenge at www.leadershipchallenge.com
- Magic in the Room #69: Leading When People Experience Trauma with Chris King
- Magic in the Room #65: The Hope Theory with Special Guest Dr. Chan Hellman
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Recorded at AUIDEO studio
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