Magic in the Room #131: Replay - Being Resilient with Lorca Smetana
December 4, 2022
This week we are replaying one of Luke’s favorite episodes. Luke picked this episode as a favorite because it challenged him to consider the connection between love and resilience. Lorca Smetana has spent her entire life understanding resilience. Born into a climbing community, she was a survivor of the Mt. Hood climbing tragedy that took the lives of nine students and teachers when she was sixteen. In this episode of Magic in the Room, Hannah, Luke, and Lorca discuss the idea that becoming resilient is not just a list of techniques to follow but a deep approach to life that requires practice and self-reflection.
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Find Lorca Smetana at lorcasmetana.com
On LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/lorca-smetana/
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This week’s episode of Magic in the Room was recorded at AUIDEO studio in Bozeman, MT. find them at www.auideo.com

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