Magic in the Room #132: Intentional Leaders: Brian Gooden on Pursuing his Purpose to Win and Help Win
December 12, 2022
On this episode of Magic in the Room, Chris reconnects with Brian Gooden. Brian was on one of Chris’ favorite episodes, Win and Help Win in Tribal Enterprise with Brian Gooden, and we wanted to get an update. In the first episode with Brian, he introduced his desire to “win and help win.” In other words, Brian is committed to having a mindset of abundance. Brian has realized that to win and help win, he has to get out of his normal comforts and take risks to advance the cause of helping others win.
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