Magic in the Room #147: Using Your Strengths to Work with Others with Sarah Elkins
May 6, 2023
In this episode of Magic in the Room, Hannah and Ben sit down with Sarah Elkins to continue our series about focusing on our strengths. Sarah, Hannah, and Ben discuss how people can understand their strengths to work together more effectively.
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Links mentioned in this episode:
- Clifton Strengths: https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths
Find Sarah on LinkedIn at
www.linkedin.com/in/thesmileisfree or her website at
elkinsconsulting.com
Credits:
- This episode of Magic in the Room was recorded remotely
- Music by Evan Grim. Find his music on Apple Music

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