Magic in the Room #170: Elevating the Heart of the Company with Guest Ben Scholl
October 15, 2023
In today’s episode of Magic in the Room, Chris and guest Ben Scholl talk about how leaders can cultivate a vibrant and sustainable brand by helping team members thrive. Ben and Chris take on this topic through the lens of the hotel industry, but the three principles are the same in every context: create clear paths to growth, involve everyone in product design, and intentionally create human connection.
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Find the article that goes with this episode at www.purposeandperformancegroup.com/elevating-housekeeping-roles-in-hotel-operations
Credits:
- This episode of Magic in the Room was recorded onsite in Big Sky, Montana
- Music by Evan Grim. Find his music on
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