Magic in the Room #194: NNAHRA Interview

Sarah Whitfield • November 4, 2025

In this episode of "Magic in the Room," Chris interviews board members from the National Native American Human Resources Association (NNAHRA) discussing the power of purpose-driven leadership within tribal organizations. Recorded at the NNAHRA annual conference, they explore themes like courage, vulnerability, accountability, community service, and fostering environments where all employees feel valued and able to contribute. They share how NNAHRA builds a supportive professional network for tribal HR leaders, encourages alignment between individual roles and tribal purpose, and creates space for courageous conversations across governance and enterprise structures. They also discuss future initiatives, including new certifications and the 2026 conference at the Hilton Village in Hawaii. The overarching message: lead with purpose, support one another, and build cultures rooted in respect, courage, and shared responsibility. 

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Credits: 

  • Learn more about NNAHRA: https://nnahra.org/ 
  • This episode of Magic in the Room was recorded on-site at Pechanga Casino and Resort in Temecula, California 
  • Music by Evan Grim. Find his music on Apple Music 

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